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  • Notation Preferences Comparison 1

    Posted by William Rinatti on 20 August, 2021 at 2:43 am

    I am doing a study on harpist notation preferences for certain types of figures and would like to gather as many opinions as I can. Would you rather read this figure as notated in the first bar, or in the second bar:

    William Rinatti replied 2 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 23 Replies
  • 23 Replies
  • Bronwyn Jarvis-Todd

    Member
    20 August, 2021 at 5:25 am

    As a beginner, I certainly prefer the 1st bar notation. I do not have to stop and work it out.

    • William Rinatti

      Member
      20 August, 2021 at 8:16 pm

      Thank you very much! Now that I see your concerns I’m posting two more solutions:

      • Sarah

        Member
        23 August, 2021 at 11:47 am

        My preference would be bar 1 above. Visually looks right to me. Stems up and down for each hand is good. In my experience not everyone uses this rule. An ‘LH’ would also clarify.

      • William Rinatti

        Member
        23 August, 2021 at 6:12 pm

        Thank you for the input, Sarah. This comparison has been very valuable to me.

    • William Rinatti

      Member
      23 August, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      Thank you, BJ-T. And if you have the chance, let me know what you think of the solutions I added later.

  • William Rinatti

    Member
    20 August, 2021 at 9:47 pm

    And a third solution…

    • Katharina Kleidosty

      Member
      21 August, 2021 at 9:10 pm

      The last one would be my personal favourite!

      • William Rinatti

        Member
        21 August, 2021 at 9:31 pm

        Thank you very much for the reply! Do you mean the one with the heading of:

        “And a third solution…”

        • Katharina Kleidosty

          Member
          23 August, 2021 at 9:13 am

          Yes, sorry. I think the third solution makes it clear that the middle bit is supposed to be played with the left hand, while it is also apparent at a glance that all 9 notes are a unit (rhythmically), and the fact that all the notes are written in the same clef in the same line makes it easier to read.

          • William Rinatti

            Member
            23 August, 2021 at 6:07 pm

            Much appreciated. So far it looks like the third solution is the winner.

    • Claire Lécuyer

      Member
      22 August, 2021 at 4:43 pm

      Hello William, that’s an interesting subject, as I’m collaborating with a friend who writes some arrangements and he’s new to the harp. I also prefer the third solution! If you want to mention for the harpist that the 3 middle notes have to be played with the left hand, you could just note “L.H.” as text below this group of notes. I hope that’s clear and helpful!

      • William Rinatti

        Member
        22 August, 2021 at 7:48 pm

        Thank you, Clair. The more input I get on these questions the better.

        Do you think the lefthand designation would be necessary only for a professional harpist’s part?

        • Claire Lécuyer

          Member
          23 August, 2021 at 11:26 am

          On the contrary, I think a professional harpist will know what to do, but the hand notation would surely help a beginner 😉

          • William Rinatti

            Member
            23 August, 2021 at 6:06 pm

            Okay. Thanks a lot, Claire.

      • William Rinatti

        Member
        22 August, 2021 at 8:28 pm

        I meant to type “Claire”. Sorry for the misspelling.

    • nightthunder

      Member
      15 September, 2021 at 3:07 am

      Progressing down to your third sample I can clearly see what is required of hand placement so I would prefer this method best.

      • William Rinatti

        Member
        15 September, 2021 at 5:57 am

        Thanks. That seems to be the most popular.

  • Hana

    Member
    21 August, 2021 at 9:51 pm

    I would prefer the third notation as well.

    • William Rinatti

      Member
      21 August, 2021 at 10:10 pm

      Thanks for the input, Hana Fe. I think I prefer the third one as well, and I’m not even a harp player, but a composer.

  • Annette Kelly

    Member
    11 September, 2021 at 6:46 pm

    I prefer the first sample of the second set. Having two bar lines in the same space could confuse the timing. Three triplets are the same as 9, eh?

    • William Rinatti

      Member
      11 September, 2021 at 7:21 pm

      Thank you, Annette. I’m adding your comment to my vote tally. Much appreciated.

      –William

  • nightthunder

    Member
    15 September, 2021 at 3:03 am

    As a late beginner I find reading the first measure (bar) is easier and faster for finger placement.

    • William Rinatti

      Member
      15 September, 2021 at 5:54 am

      Thank you so much. I’ll add that my results.

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